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 10-13-2003, 20:02 Post: 66162
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There is something to be said for mass, the trouble is the cars are smaller and SUV's are bigger. If you drive a SUV like it is a car then someone may get hurt, although it may not be you.
I have always figured the best compromise was a Volvo, built like a truck, but the economy of a car. I am not sure the new ones are as tough though.






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 10-14-2003, 18:44 Post: 66249
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Bigger is safer for you if you are driving, but the statistic also say they are a hazard for the person in the smaller car.
The large SUV has become like the large station wagon of old, the family lugger. To a certain extent the engineering is the same and we have moved to the same vehicles our father's drove only with slightly different bodies. Unfortunately the driving skills do not match the mass.
When I was young I lived in an area where the roads were like the California. The rod rodders (car boys) tended to get a car souped up and then proceed to place it in the ditch. It never made sense to me to build a quarter miler in an area where the only straight paved flat quarter mile had hair pin turns at either end. To this end we went the road race route. Going fast made no sense unless you could negociate the next corner.
My 544 s with ported B20 would walk almost any car, cornered well and topped 130. Including stops for gas. I travelled from Terrace to Vancouver once in 12 hours (Mark). We would race at Westwood or the Boundary Bay Airport. In MA I worked with a friend on VSCCA MG cars and raced them on the track.
In 97 I bought a new Ford truck with the extra cab. I drove it a while and then I remember thinking this thing drives like a car. Then it hit me I had bought my fathers Crown Vic.
Like Chief I drive the Ram 3500 on distance trips. Only the truckers argue with me as most SUVs are smaller than the beast. Still it gets 20 miles to the gallon, better than the SUV and more useful to me.






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 10-15-2003, 19:19 Post: 66323
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I guess everyone saw the footage of the IRL crash on the weekend. It is just incredable that the driver survived and a testiment to the crash protection that is placed into these vehicles.
I am not a big fan of making a truck into a car. Personally I miss the rubber mats.
I am not sure what the attaction to large SUV's are. I guess if I had use for one, I might look at a small Defender or Jeep. Did own one in my younger days and used it to go skiing etc. But a well balanced rear wheel drive will get you most places you need to go on the road.
Where I off roaded, size was a problem as most of the roads quckly become over grown in the north west.
When I worked for the forest service I got stuck with a long box crew cab. The number of times we had to inch the thing around to try and turn around on a tight trail, never again.






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Dennis on the Hummer the engine is back closer to the center but not between the front seats. The drive train is in this area so that you can not damage it even if you get high centered. The wheels are geared like front of a CUT to place the drive train higher and provide greater ground clearance.
The engine and drive train are similar to the normal Yukon on the H2.






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